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« on: December 02, 2009, 11:20:44 AM »

So, I am doing some more work for the IGDA's Game Preservation SIG (I hope you've heard of us...probably not), thus need some help...(and I really need to join more classic and vintage game forums to be honest. Woe is me for time to do this!).

Basically, I need a list of any game databases. Also please a rating of how factually correct or up to date they are too, if possible Wink I need more resources to link to, and in addition, I am working slowly on a site which might have similar functionality of a kind (I've honestly not decided).

The main reason for asking is that between Mobygames and Wikipedia, it's okay, but not perfect. There's a ton of gaps where I want more in depth (or complete) information, especially media, and am unable to easily find it.

If anyone has other resources - books, films, etc. which are tied to many games and the history of them, or going further afield, databases of personal computers and machines, vintage kit and software, list them too.

More the merrier, and for reference (but don't just look at this list and assume I have a ton! post a list first Wink ) this is the current list: http://wiki.igda.org/Game_Preservation_SIG/Projects
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« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2009, 10:05:21 AM »

Andrew,

That's a great list of links you've got there.

I think I've got a few you can add.

Under "Digital Game Software Repositories," you could add Jason Scott's http://cd.textfiles.com/directory.html.  He's got tons of old shareware game CDs archived there.  They include shareware from many platforms and even various BBS doors.  You can also find the complete file section of my old BBS, The Cave BBS, there.  Neat site.

For a complete list of my professional history articles, check out http://www.benjedwards.com/works.html.  I don't post everything I write on VC&G, but everything is on that particular list.  It's ended up (unintentionally) being a one-stop site for many articles on game and computer history, since few writers focus on the subject as I do.



On the subject of game databases, I've been frustrated too by incompleteness and inaccuracies.  I've actually been planning my own game database for quite some time that would be geared toward citable historical accuracy, especially with dates and prices.  I hope I can launch it some day.

Until then, there's a few you've missed that I can think of off hand:

AtariMania is an excellent resource for information on Atari 2600 and Atari 8-bit computer games (example link): http://www.atarimania.com/pgemainsoft.awp?type=G&system=8

Lemon Amiga has an extensive Amiga games DB: http://www.lemonamiga.com/

Similarly, Lemon 64 is excellent for Commodore 64 games: http://www.lemon64.com/

Giant Bomb has its own games database, apparently attempting to rival MobyGames, etc.  Sometimes good info is there that's not on other sites: (example) http://www.giantbomb.com/ms-pac-man/61-6332/

This used to be called the "Apple IIgs Gaming Fairway," I think.  Now it's called "What is the Apple IIGS?"  Plenty of great Apple IIgs game info here: http://www.whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/

Little Green Desktop has info on Atari ST games, although it's not really historically complete: http://www.atari.st/games.php

That's all I can think of right now.  If I were to start a new historically-minded game/computer database, would you be willing to help, Andrew?

Benj

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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2009, 07:07:47 AM »

Wow, thanks a lot Benj Cheesy some on there I should have added ages ago, for sure. Will update it today Smiley

As for the database - well, the thing is, I'm going to be working to get this database I've planned (starting with bibliographic entries, and a glossary probably) to get some proper support from historians and preservationists - and also, I hope, to get some grant money so that there can be a distributed back-end of the content (some of which won't be public facing). It would, I am sure, have much more broad sets of information fields (including full articles) for entries, and be cross-referenced with historical articles and other non-game items. Quite likely how I think of it would contain summaries ala Wikipedia and Mobygames, with in-depth pages on every major aspect of a game, references and links to external resources, opinion pieces and so forth. Search would have to be good too (try finding "that game with a red cover and had a dude with black hair in it" somewhere else, heh. Could use a lot of search tagging for many types of non-text media!).

I'd like it to be a tool for historians adding to it, so I'd make editing it have revision history and so forth. I'd like to think there'd be enough interest from some people to get basics going and also allow some submissions of info from the public - although it'd quite likely have to be fact checked properly to be of any worth, as we've discussed on our mailing list, there are TON of common things thought of as proper historical fact, where in fact it is just a myth! In any case, that is one major issue with other places - the lack of involvement from experts (true; there are a lot of things to go through...).

Although the content would have to be openly suitable for both referencing (so can be a first point of information), and for reading (some not-so-restrictive CC licence or other open thing perhaps, who knows...).

I haven't, however, got really anywhere building it - only some basics so far, mainly concentrating (still!) on the Database Schema - it's getting quite in-depth. I've not found a good (PHP-based, since I enjoy PHP) base solution to use. Of course I never expected there to be one Wink (else someone else would have a perfect site for it), but I'll probably hack some stuff together from other suitable places - there's some good things for editors, CSS/layout, javascript etc.

I'd be interested in what you'd have planned and what you'd want a database to do Smiley I would still certainly need to get a bibliographic thing done anyway, so I'll be building that regardless Cheesy it's if I'd go further and add games/systems/etc. as well.
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