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« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2009, 10:24:41 AM » |
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I am quite surprised at how little the lack of a page file hurt things. Or helped... |
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sirpaul484
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« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2009, 12:37:32 AM » |
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to get framerate, just get FRAPS. it will display FPS in the corner of the screen, or if you have the G15(like me) you can view the FPS on the keyboard  But wouldn't that cause more bloat, and lower the framerate? |
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t3hfr3ak
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« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2009, 02:11:55 AM » |
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from my experience, i have never noticed a difference, if there was id say it would be a maximum of 1fps
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sirpaul484
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« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2009, 03:32:37 AM » |
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All right then. I check fraps out, if of course I don't find a better way first.
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Andrew Armstrong
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« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2009, 02:47:10 PM » |
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Seems there's not much difference. The stability thing is odd though, shouldn't do that - if a game can run on a PC with only 1GB of RAM, why would lacking a page file for an 8GB RAM system make it crash? That's really odd.
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sirpaul484
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« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2009, 04:01:18 AM » |
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I have no idea.. I might have to do more extensive research into it.
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Todd
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« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2009, 06:42:52 PM » |
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Certain applications are hard coded to use the page file so when its not there is does odd things. Virtual memory is a throw back from the days of DOS where the "page" file and some of the application itself was stored in RamDisk. Windows 3 used VM and so does all Microsoft OS's up to vista. It's my hope that Windows 7 kills page files and DOS for good. I want to end backwards compatibility and bring 64 bit into mainstream. Anyway...
I use 3 hard drives. Two for raid and a third to hold nothing but the page file. Blistering fast.
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sirpaul484
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« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2009, 04:34:09 PM » |
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That's kind of what I thought, though I would have expected it to refuse to run, period, giving me an "out of memory" error. As for ending backwards compatability, there's a few problems with that. I, for example, still use old versions of Word for Windows 3.x. It's not easy to run it now, due to the limitations of 64-bit Vista, but I can still pop Windows 3.1 on here and run it with DOSBox... oh, wait.. no floppy drive...  |
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Andrew Armstrong
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« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2009, 08:32:03 PM » |
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You should get one, or a USB one. Does creating a RAM drive and sticking only the paging file on that RAM drive help the issue with things crashing? Also, a tiny tiny page file might help I guess. Couldn't say without trying it myself though, and that'll be a few years away I bet |
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RedWolf
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« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2009, 08:56:35 PM » |
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Does creating a RAM drive and sticking only the paging file on that RAM drive help the issue with things crashing? Hehe, that sounds silly for some reason. A page file in RAM -- sounds kind of like ... RAM.  My only experience with no page file was with a tiny Midori Linux installation on my Compaq IA-1. It has something like 32MB RAM total, and the OS runs on a 32MB flash card, so there's no virtual memory or swap space, etc. When the 32 megs of internal RAM fills up on the IA-1 (such as when browsing large pages in Opera), the machine just crashes. |
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Todd
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« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2009, 07:56:26 AM » |
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I, for example, still use old versions of Word for Windows 3.x Ah, Win 3.x, love it. Why do you use such an old version? Keep it for nostalgia but go get Open Office. |
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sirpaul484
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« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2009, 03:34:33 PM » |
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The reason I use it is because I know it like the back of my hand. I don't like re-learning programs when I already have something that works perfectly and does everything I want it to do.
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RedWolf
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« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2009, 10:53:31 AM » |
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Check this out: http://www.fusionio.com/Products.aspxThis company apparently has solid-state products that "enable terabytes of Virtual Memory with near DRAM speeds." Pretty crazy. |
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Todd
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« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2009, 12:47:43 PM » |
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I asked for information and pricing, however they advertise as a Enterprise storage solution provider. Chances are this IO card price is way out of my league.
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sirpaul484
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« Reply #29 on: February 06, 2009, 05:07:00 PM » |
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It seems interesting. At first, I thought it sounded kind of dodgy, but according to both the site, AND Wikipedia, Steve Wozniak is a part of their team. I do not see any information about it on Wozniak's own site, though..
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