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 		<title>Comment on A False Messiah: The Generation NEX Sucks by: Benj Edwards</title>
		<link>http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/6#comment-17220</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'd like to thank everyone who has read (and will likely continue to read) my Generation NEX review over the years -- even those who took criticisms of a piece of plastic and metal personally.

It's been almost four years since I posted this review, and I admit now that some of the language I used back then was a little crass (i.e. &quot;Generation SUX&quot;).  Much has changed in the blogging world since 2005, and I've changed along with it.  But the underlying criticisms of the NEX cited here remain valid.

It's finally time to close the book on the Generation NEX.  This story is over now -- the market has spoken, and Messiah is out of business.  Their product truly was terrible for the price, and I advise anyone out there who might run across a NEX to avoid it unless a) it's $10 or b) you're a completionist and want it for your collection.

As a functional NES player, the NEX just didn't cut it, and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I'd like to thank everyone who has read (and will likely continue to read) my Generation NEX review over the years &#8212; even those who took criticisms of a piece of plastic and metal personally.</p>
	<p>It's been almost four years since I posted this review, and I admit now that some of the language I used back then was a little crass (i.e. "Generation SUX").  Much has changed in the blogging world since 2005, and I've changed along with it.  But the underlying criticisms of the NEX cited here remain valid.</p>
	<p>It's finally time to close the book on the Generation NEX.  This story is over now &#8212; the market has spoken, and Messiah is out of business.  Their product truly was terrible for the price, and I advise anyone out there who might run across a NEX to avoid it unless a) it's $10 or b) you're a completionist and want it for your collection.</p>
	<p>As a functional NES player, the NEX just didn't cut it, and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
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 		<title>Comment on A False Messiah: The Generation NEX Sucks by: Karma</title>
		<link>http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/6#comment-17218</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 05:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I Do not agree. 

That is putting my view kindly.

What I see here, is a clear case of ridiculous, biased, silly nerdy nitpicking to death. 

As far as ALL NES clone hardware go, this one is pretty much.. THE best that you will get. 8-bit Jake's review is not only better written, more intelligent, more insightful and thoughtful then yours is.. it's also not a load of hot air.

The NEX, sir, does not suck. You do.

First off... do you have any idea how impressive a 95% compatibility rate really is? Judging by your article, no. You do not. Out of a library of literally hundreds of games, to have a compatibility rate that high, is frankly, remarkable.

This system is the most well put together, the best designed, and overall the NES clone with the most work and best functionality of all.

Frankly, I find it disgusting how you have bamboozled and misled many of the easily swayed sheep that come to this site and scared them away with your overly harsh, hot air spewing and scare mongering hyperbole, consisting of incredibly lame and excruciatingly minor nitpicks.

The original NES is a badly designed, and very flawed peice of hardware. Connectors easily corrode and bend over time, rendering them useless unless constantly moniored and replaced. If blinking screens, and hours spent trying to get ONE game to work correctly, then by all means, stay with the original toaster NES, and live in frustration and repair funds to replace pin connectors every few months.

Or, if you want to pay ridiculous amounts for the inferior NES Top Loader with it's only AV option bein the horrible RF switches and awful video quality, then by all means, stick with that.

But if you want 95% computability,games guaranteed to work most every time you turn them on, AND crisp, AV Component cables with dual mono instead of having to listen to only one speaker... then get the NEX. 

it frankly is the best and most well made of all clones. highest compatibility rate, and best on the market of unlicensed NES's.

You article is wrong. It is misleading, it is nitpicky, it is harping severly and unnessessarily harshly on a series of minor, non-issues, it makes mountins out of molehills, it is biased, and ridiculously negative for no readily apparent reason, other than the words of a disgruntled man who was havin a bad day and needed somethin to take his frustrated, anger out on.

This article is a disgrace to this fine NES clone system, from the first word of it's misleading title, to every word of it's nitpicky, ridiculous, garbge, poorly reasoned diatribe within.

Don't listen to this article. It's ludicrous. THIS is the best you will find of it's kind. In fact, not bein able to play Castlevania III, non-withstanding, it is even superior to both OFFICIAL NES MODELS in the aforementioned ways.

And if you have an LCD tv... then it's a no brainier. You absolutely MUST buy this. There is no other option. As NES clones go, I guarantee that you can not do better than this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I Do not agree. </p>
	<p>That is putting my view kindly.</p>
	<p>What I see here, is a clear case of ridiculous, biased, silly nerdy nitpicking to death. </p>
	<p>As far as ALL NES clone hardware go, this one is pretty much.. THE best that you will get. 8-bit Jake's review is not only better written, more intelligent, more insightful and thoughtful then yours is.. it's also not a load of hot air.</p>
	<p>The NEX, sir, does not suck. You do.</p>
	<p>First off&#8230; do you have any idea how impressive a 95% compatibility rate really is? Judging by your article, no. You do not. Out of a library of literally hundreds of games, to have a compatibility rate that high, is frankly, remarkable.</p>
	<p>This system is the most well put together, the best designed, and overall the NES clone with the most work and best functionality of all.</p>
	<p>Frankly, I find it disgusting how you have bamboozled and misled many of the easily swayed sheep that come to this site and scared them away with your overly harsh, hot air spewing and scare mongering hyperbole, consisting of incredibly lame and excruciatingly minor nitpicks.</p>
	<p>The original NES is a badly designed, and very flawed peice of hardware. Connectors easily corrode and bend over time, rendering them useless unless constantly moniored and replaced. If blinking screens, and hours spent trying to get ONE game to work correctly, then by all means, stay with the original toaster NES, and live in frustration and repair funds to replace pin connectors every few months.</p>
	<p>Or, if you want to pay ridiculous amounts for the inferior NES Top Loader with it's only AV option bein the horrible RF switches and awful video quality, then by all means, stick with that.</p>
	<p>But if you want 95% computability,games guaranteed to work most every time you turn them on, AND crisp, AV Component cables with dual mono instead of having to listen to only one speaker&#8230; then get the NEX. </p>
	<p>it frankly is the best and most well made of all clones. highest compatibility rate, and best on the market of unlicensed NES's.</p>
	<p>You article is wrong. It is misleading, it is nitpicky, it is harping severly and unnessessarily harshly on a series of minor, non-issues, it makes mountins out of molehills, it is biased, and ridiculously negative for no readily apparent reason, other than the words of a disgruntled man who was havin a bad day and needed somethin to take his frustrated, anger out on.</p>
	<p>This article is a disgrace to this fine NES clone system, from the first word of it's misleading title, to every word of it's nitpicky, ridiculous, garbge, poorly reasoned diatribe within.</p>
	<p>Don't listen to this article. It's ludicrous. THIS is the best you will find of it's kind. In fact, not bein able to play Castlevania III, non-withstanding, it is even superior to both OFFICIAL NES MODELS in the aforementioned ways.</p>
	<p>And if you have an LCD tv&#8230; then it's a no brainier. You absolutely MUST buy this. There is no other option. As NES clones go, I guarantee that you can not do better than this.
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 		<title>Comment on A False Messiah: The Generation NEX Sucks by: Gen Goldman</title>
		<link>http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/6#comment-17125</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 05:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/6#comment-17125</guid>
					<description>Messiah's webpage is indeed dead. It's a shame that they didn't use the money they made from the first batch to vastly improve the system for a second. It was a neat design, and worked with _original_ controllers, something that is sadly missing from the newer famiclones (and the reason I won't buy them!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Messiah's webpage is indeed dead. It's a shame that they didn't use the money they made from the first batch to vastly improve the system for a second. It was a neat design, and worked with _original_ controllers, something that is sadly missing from the newer famiclones (and the reason I won't buy them!)
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 		<title>Comment on A False Messiah: The Generation NEX Sucks by: beefcake</title>
		<link>http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/6#comment-16444</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 04:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>hey guys i just wanted to throw another point of view out there.
i love the messiah i think its a great system to get back into retro gaming. i think the systems needs improvement in a few aspects, like maybe suction cups on the bottom of the system to hold the console secure while you remove/ add a cartridge, and so on.

my beef with messiah is that WILL NOT RETURN EMAILS OR CALLS!!!

i own a small flea market business in amarillo and messiah will not confirm orders or even answer a call. i got all kinds of accessories but no systems.
also i have a ton of games...like 5 maybe 6 hundred. i could have sold many MANY untits if only someone would ship the damn things to me!


this totally sucks i lost money this christmas because messiah refused to answer their phones.

thanks guys for letting me vent also,
beefcake</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>hey guys i just wanted to throw another point of view out there.<br />
i love the messiah i think its a great system to get back into retro gaming. i think the systems needs improvement in a few aspects, like maybe suction cups on the bottom of the system to hold the console secure while you remove/ add a cartridge, and so on.</p>
	<p>my beef with messiah is that WILL NOT RETURN EMAILS OR CALLS!!!</p>
	<p>i own a small flea market business in amarillo and messiah will not confirm orders or even answer a call. i got all kinds of accessories but no systems.<br />
also i have a ton of games&#8230;like 5 maybe 6 hundred. i could have sold many MANY untits if only someone would ship the damn things to me!</p>
	<p>this totally sucks i lost money this christmas because messiah refused to answer their phones.</p>
	<p>thanks guys for letting me vent also,<br />
beefcake
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 		<title>Comment on A False Messiah: The Generation NEX Sucks by: Garrett</title>
		<link>http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/6#comment-16366</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 01:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>CRAP! I bought this piece of junk for 70 bucks! Turns out it doesn't play ANY of my games! I even returned one copy thinking it was broken, and the other one worked just like the same! I don't know how they did this. I hope they burn for this. You should never make a product and just try to freaking cash in on people like this. These guys got tons of money for making a piece of crap. I saw this at Hastings, if you ever see a Generation NEX... don't buy it. By the way, notice that their website doesn't come up anymore?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>CRAP! I bought this piece of junk for 70 bucks! Turns out it doesn't play ANY of my games! I even returned one copy thinking it was broken, and the other one worked just like the same! I don't know how they did this. I hope they burn for this. You should never make a product and just try to freaking cash in on people like this. These guys got tons of money for making a piece of crap. I saw this at Hastings, if you ever see a Generation NEX&#8230; don't buy it. By the way, notice that their website doesn't come up anymore?
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 		<title>Comment on A False Messiah: The Generation NEX Sucks by: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/6#comment-16167</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Ok, IGN listed this as a plus, and now steve said it too.  The NEX has mono audio split into two channels.  You can get this fake stereo output by just using a mono AV to stereo AV cable.  Or use an adapter like this one, which costs $2.25:

http://www.computercablestore.com/5_FT_RCA_Mono_to_Stereo_C_PID459.aspx

I had a cable that went to stereo laying around, and use it with my front loader to get fake stereo.  It works fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ok, IGN listed this as a plus, and now steve said it too.  The NEX has mono audio split into two channels.  You can get this fake stereo output by just using a mono AV to stereo AV cable.  Or use an adapter like this one, which costs $2.25:</p>
	<p><a href='http://www.computercablestore.com/5_FT_RCA_Mono_to_Stereo_C_PID459.aspx' rel='nofollow'>http://www.computercablestore.com/5_FT_RCA_Mono_to_Stereo_C_PID459.aspx</a></p>
	<p>I had a cable that went to stereo laying around, and use it with my front loader to get fake stereo.  It works fine.
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 		<title>Comment on A False Messiah: The Generation NEX Sucks by: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/6#comment-15838</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/6#comment-15838</guid>
					<description>I thought i'd chime in here, I bought an NEX back in 2005 and stumbled across this article while considering to buy a second on for a friend.  It's a great system in my opinion - here's how I see it:
 Toploader factory original NES &amp;#62; Messiah NEX &amp;#62; Original front loader blow in the cartidge all day might work standard NES &amp;#62; other NES clones(like yobo or FC Twin).

I'm an NES junkie and I can't really find fault with the sound, it's worked on all the games I want to play, and the overall quality of the piece was quite excellent for the price.
However I don't like their wired remote for the reasons the article mentions, and I don't care for the disc instead of D pad on the wireless remote - but frankly no remotes but the original feel right to me so I've plugged in two gently used original controller I had.  
The NEX is far better than any aftermarket NES on a chip consoles I have owned or played.  I've experienced terrible sound quality, actual marring of the contacts inside game cartridges, and slots that look like nintendo controller plugs that can't take an orignal controller so you're stuck using the cheapo controllers that come with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I thought i'd chime in here, I bought an NEX back in 2005 and stumbled across this article while considering to buy a second on for a friend.  It's a great system in my opinion - here's how I see it:<br />
 Toploader factory original NES &gt; Messiah NEX &gt; Original front loader blow in the cartidge all day might work standard NES &gt; other NES clones(like yobo or FC Twin).</p>
	<p>I'm an NES junkie and I can't really find fault with the sound, it's worked on all the games I want to play, and the overall quality of the piece was quite excellent for the price.<br />
However I don't like their wired remote for the reasons the article mentions, and I don't care for the disc instead of D pad on the wireless remote - but frankly no remotes but the original feel right to me so I've plugged in two gently used original controller I had.<br />
The NEX is far better than any aftermarket NES on a chip consoles I have owned or played.  I've experienced terrible sound quality, actual marring of the contacts inside game cartridges, and slots that look like nintendo controller plugs that can't take an orignal controller so you're stuck using the cheapo controllers that come with it.
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 		<title>Comment on A False Messiah: The Generation NEX Sucks by: Drew N.</title>
		<link>http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/6#comment-15521</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>This review is so crap man. pathetic compatability? about, 10 or so games out of the 700 nes games don't work on it, oh well!

bad controller? you can use the origanal nes one!

distorted sound? It sounds exactly the same to me! in fact, it's a little more clear because it's dual mono. 

graphical glitches? I havn't encountered any. The system does make every game look a little brighter, but this can easily be adjusted in your TV settings by putting the brightness down a bit, and it looks JUST like the origanal NES.

considering that there is no cartridge blowing like the origanal toaster, and it plays famicom games, theres no reason to get an origanal nes over this (unless for the nastalgia or if you REALLY need to play castlvania 3)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>This review is so crap man. pathetic compatability? about, 10 or so games out of the 700 nes games don't work on it, oh well!</p>
	<p>bad controller? you can use the origanal nes one!</p>
	<p>distorted sound? It sounds exactly the same to me! in fact, it's a little more clear because it's dual mono. </p>
	<p>graphical glitches? I havn't encountered any. The system does make every game look a little brighter, but this can easily be adjusted in your TV settings by putting the brightness down a bit, and it looks JUST like the origanal NES.</p>
	<p>considering that there is no cartridge blowing like the origanal toaster, and it plays famicom games, theres no reason to get an origanal nes over this (unless for the nastalgia or if you REALLY need to play castlvania 3)
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 		<title>Comment on A False Messiah: The Generation NEX Sucks by: steve</title>
		<link>http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/6#comment-15467</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>why all the NEX haters!    i just bought a NEX system, and its AWESOME!  I LOVE IT.  it looks so cool in the entertainment center next to my playstation.   i have bought just about every famiclones/NOAC machines and the messiah generation NEX puts them all to shame.    and sure, its not 100% exactly the same as original NES, but at least you dont have to BLOW on the cartridges to get them to work.

does NES play both NES and famicom games without a converter.

does NES have built in wireless technology.

does NES have stereo A/V jacks

does NES play the games the first time you insert it, without a blinking screen, without having to clean the cartridges, or blow in it,  or fiddle around with it for an hour.


yes, the generation nex is a famiclone,  but its the KING of all famiclones. thats the whole point,  if you are thinking of buying a famiclone, why not get the best.   most normal people will never notice the tiny little differences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>why all the NEX haters!    i just bought a NEX system, and its AWESOME!  I LOVE IT.  it looks so cool in the entertainment center next to my playstation.   i have bought just about every famiclones/NOAC machines and the messiah generation NEX puts them all to shame.    and sure, its not 100% exactly the same as original NES, but at least you dont have to BLOW on the cartridges to get them to work.</p>
	<p>does NES play both NES and famicom games without a converter.</p>
	<p>does NES have built in wireless technology.</p>
	<p>does NES have stereo A/V jacks</p>
	<p>does NES play the games the first time you insert it, without a blinking screen, without having to clean the cartridges, or blow in it,  or fiddle around with it for an hour.</p>
	<p>yes, the generation nex is a famiclone,  but its the KING of all famiclones. thats the whole point,  if you are thinking of buying a famiclone, why not get the best.   most normal people will never notice the tiny little differences.
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 		<title>Comment on A False Messiah: The Generation NEX Sucks by: johannes</title>
		<link>http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/6#comment-15058</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 19:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>i guess the reviewer were taking those words from the companny wich claims that you can play all your nes games with a new pass etc,, to seriouse.
but offcourse why not i should also aspecting that it shut do the things they said.
but since this system is also based on the noac chipset manny wires and chipsets are incorrect and incomplete, manny games don,t work or not correctly.
now they said enjoy your games in a new passion,the only new passion to your nes games i can consider are ,incorrect colors,glitchy graphics,a green screen,raspy missing and incorrect sound,a akawaka wireless controller, and possibely damaging and crashing games.
also they said there,s is stereo out but in fact it,s just duo mono,but they could output real streo by saperating those soundchannels from eachother.
and hey were the external sound input for famicomgames???
the only good thing about it is it,s great desing and it,s improved frontloading system,and one input for famicom games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>i guess the reviewer were taking those words from the companny wich claims that you can play all your nes games with a new pass etc,, to seriouse.<br />
but offcourse why not i should also aspecting that it shut do the things they said.<br />
but since this system is also based on the noac chipset manny wires and chipsets are incorrect and incomplete, manny games don,t work or not correctly.<br />
now they said enjoy your games in a new passion,the only new passion to your nes games i can consider are ,incorrect colors,glitchy graphics,a green screen,raspy missing and incorrect sound,a akawaka wireless controller, and possibely damaging and crashing games.<br />
also they said there,s is stereo out but in fact it,s just duo mono,but they could output real streo by saperating those soundchannels from eachother.<br />
and hey were the external sound input for famicomgames???<br />
the only good thing about it is it,s great desing and it,s improved frontloading system,and one input for famicom games.
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