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 		<title>Comment on [ Retro Scan of the Week ] Corvus Apple II Hard Drive by: Thomas Lindt</title>
		<link>http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/610#comment-17916</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I kept my first system, a Heath/Zenith Z-90....10mb Corvus  Model 10B Serial Number 482-bh0370,  and a Corvus Multiplexer Model Hmux Serial Number 402-M0427 one of the worlds first routers.  Both Units are Revision B.  Make me an Offer.........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I kept my first system, a Heath/Zenith Z-90&#8230;.10mb Corvus  Model 10B Serial Number 482-bh0370,  and a Corvus Multiplexer Model Hmux Serial Number 402-M0427 one of the worlds first routers.  Both Units are Revision B.  Make me an Offer&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;
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 		<title>Comment on [ Retro Scan of the Week ] Corvus Apple II Hard Drive by: Raymond Lamothe</title>
		<link>http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/610#comment-17902</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I am in possession of a Corvus hard drive. Is there any museum that may be interseted in it? Does it have any value today?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I am in possession of a Corvus hard drive. Is there any museum that may be interseted in it? Does it have any value today?
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 		<title>Comment on [ Retro Scan of the Week ] Corvus Apple II Hard Drive by: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/610#comment-17772</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 00:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>My first hard drive was a Seagate 64MB RLL drive for my Hyundai XT compatible. I was the envy of all my friends who were stuck with a tiny 40MB hard drives. Now I have files bigger than that sitting on my desktop!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>My first hard drive was a Seagate 64MB RLL drive for my Hyundai XT compatible. I was the envy of all my friends who were stuck with a tiny 40MB hard drives. Now I have files bigger than that sitting on my desktop!!
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 		<title>Comment on [ Retro Scan of the Week ] Corvus Apple II Hard Drive by: Bruce Barker</title>
		<link>http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/610#comment-17379</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Bought a gateway 486sx25 with a 120mb HD in 1992.  Upgraded from an atari800xl with 3 floppis but no HD.  80mb HDs were the norm it seemed, and my 120 seemed huge.  I said it would last forever and never be filled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Bought a gateway 486sx25 with a 120mb HD in 1992.  Upgraded from an atari800xl with 3 floppis but no HD.  80mb HDs were the norm it seemed, and my 120 seemed huge.  I said it would last forever and never be filled.
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 		<title>Comment on [ Retro Scan of the Week ] Corvus Apple II Hard Drive by: JimQode</title>
		<link>http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/610#comment-17378</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The first harddrive I used was a 10MB 5.25'' monster in a Commodore PC-20. It was a 8088 based machine in a desktop case. Had a clicky keyboard and Hercules monochrome display unit. I used to try programming dbase and gwbasic on that 'puter.
I also had an Amiga 1000 at that time (I still have it by the way), and I thought I would never have used a PC, if it wasn't for the harddisk. 
Some weird thing about the early harddrives was that, you had to park their heads manually by running a command before you physically moved the computer. Else all your data could be toast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The first harddrive I used was a 10MB 5.25&#8242;' monster in a Commodore PC-20. It was a 8088 based machine in a desktop case. Had a clicky keyboard and Hercules monochrome display unit. I used to try programming dbase and gwbasic on that 'puter.<br />
I also had an Amiga 1000 at that time (I still have it by the way), and I thought I would never have used a PC, if it wasn't for the harddisk.<br />
Some weird thing about the early harddrives was that, you had to park their heads manually by running a command before you physically moved the computer. Else all your data could be toast.
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 		<title>Comment on [ Retro Scan of the Week ] Corvus Apple II Hard Drive by: BDD</title>
		<link>http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/610#comment-17377</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>My first drive was an 80 Mb Seagate? (I think) in a 386. My next was a 120 Mb drive in a Mac SE/30. I still have the latter, and it's still functional :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>My first drive was an 80 Mb Seagate? (I think) in a 386. My next was a 120 Mb drive in a Mac SE/30. I still have the latter, and it's still functional <img src='http://www.vintagecomputing.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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 		<title>Comment on [ Retro Scan of the Week ] Corvus Apple II Hard Drive by: W Weber</title>
		<link>http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/610#comment-17359</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I remember the Corvus hard drive.  In fall 1983 I was taking a course on Pascal.  ACC (Austin Community College) had a computer center with Apple IIe computers and we checked out the Apple Pascal disks and booted from the floppy drives.

In Spring 1984 I was taking a course on Linear Algebra and in my spare time (trying to avoid rush hour traffic so I stayed at the school) I went to the computer center when it was not busy and began writing some programs in Apple Pascal to manipulate matrices - those with integer elements.  I wanted to be able to calculate determinants and other useful things, and keep my programming skills fresh.  During that semester the center had gotten a Corvus Hard Drive and had networked all the Apple IIe computers to it.  I have a vague recollection they also had a VCR for backup, but never saw it in operation.

I got an account on the hard drive and it was sure nice to be able to load programs and data from the hard drive and not floppy disks.  But I managed to crash the hard drive one day.  

My Apple Pascal programs had a lot of procedures and includes and when it came time to compile, the floppy drive would be accessed very often.  So using the hard drive, even over a network, was much faster.  The day the Corvus crashed, I realized that the Apple IIe did not have the entire compiled program in memory, most of the program was still on the Corvus.  So every time a procedure was called the request would go over the network to the Corvus, and as other students would be in the center also accessing the drive, but not as much as my program, the Corvus got overwhelmed.  

I had written a little procedure for validating every keystroke because I had to use strings, the Apple Pascal integer input routine would hang if a non-integer character was pressed.  That little validation routine had to be called from the server for every key press, and so when entering a matrix, that's a lot of network hits.

Once I had realized what a disaster the program was on the network, I quietly stopped my work that day and never wrote another program to run on the network.  Also, my other schoolwork and job were loading me up so I did not have time for programming any longer.  I also realized that microcomputer programming languages had a long way to go before they would be ready for bigger projects.  Memory was so expensive that the small processors like the 6502 maxed out was still a whopping lot of money.

Four years later I bought a CompuAdd 286 computer with a 20 megabyte hard drive, 4 banks of 256K memory, an EGA monitor, and a printer for $2000.  All that for less than that Corvus cost.

Electronic and mechanical technology still advances, more function for less money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I remember the Corvus hard drive.  In fall 1983 I was taking a course on Pascal.  ACC (Austin Community College) had a computer center with Apple IIe computers and we checked out the Apple Pascal disks and booted from the floppy drives.</p>
	<p>In Spring 1984 I was taking a course on Linear Algebra and in my spare time (trying to avoid rush hour traffic so I stayed at the school) I went to the computer center when it was not busy and began writing some programs in Apple Pascal to manipulate matrices - those with integer elements.  I wanted to be able to calculate determinants and other useful things, and keep my programming skills fresh.  During that semester the center had gotten a Corvus Hard Drive and had networked all the Apple IIe computers to it.  I have a vague recollection they also had a VCR for backup, but never saw it in operation.</p>
	<p>I got an account on the hard drive and it was sure nice to be able to load programs and data from the hard drive and not floppy disks.  But I managed to crash the hard drive one day.  </p>
	<p>My Apple Pascal programs had a lot of procedures and includes and when it came time to compile, the floppy drive would be accessed very often.  So using the hard drive, even over a network, was much faster.  The day the Corvus crashed, I realized that the Apple IIe did not have the entire compiled program in memory, most of the program was still on the Corvus.  So every time a procedure was called the request would go over the network to the Corvus, and as other students would be in the center also accessing the drive, but not as much as my program, the Corvus got overwhelmed.  </p>
	<p>I had written a little procedure for validating every keystroke because I had to use strings, the Apple Pascal integer input routine would hang if a non-integer character was pressed.  That little validation routine had to be called from the server for every key press, and so when entering a matrix, that's a lot of network hits.</p>
	<p>Once I had realized what a disaster the program was on the network, I quietly stopped my work that day and never wrote another program to run on the network.  Also, my other schoolwork and job were loading me up so I did not have time for programming any longer.  I also realized that microcomputer programming languages had a long way to go before they would be ready for bigger projects.  Memory was so expensive that the small processors like the 6502 maxed out was still a whopping lot of money.</p>
	<p>Four years later I bought a CompuAdd 286 computer with a 20 megabyte hard drive, 4 banks of 256K memory, an EGA monitor, and a printer for $2000.  All that for less than that Corvus cost.</p>
	<p>Electronic and mechanical technology still advances, more function for less money.
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 		<title>Comment on [ Retro Scan of the Week ] Corvus Apple II Hard Drive by: Benj Edwards</title>
		<link>http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/610#comment-17357</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Ok, I think I fixed the RSS feed problem.  Feedburner changed something about how they manage feeds and it screwed things up.  Luckily, I managed to turn off those features and get things working again.</description>
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 		<title>Comment on [ Retro Scan of the Week ] Corvus Apple II Hard Drive by: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/610#comment-17356</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>

In Jr. High, there was an old Apple II+ sitting unused amongst all the IIe's and the then-new Mac LCs (and LCIIs a year later). Being the antisocial computer geek, I got to have this thing basically all to myself. The best part, there was also a Corvus hard drive with it! Excepth, it looked a lot different than this picture. The one I remember had 3 lights in fron (power, activity and something else- error maybe?), was approxiamately the same color as the II+, and I believe was a little wider. It had outputs on the back  to hook up a VCR to store images of the drive for backup purposes!

Personally, the first computer I had with a hard drive is a still-running 8088 that had 1, then later 2, 20MB Seagate ST-225s. I remember being almost ashamed when I managed to fill one up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>In Jr. High, there was an old Apple II+ sitting unused amongst all the IIe's and the then-new Mac LCs (and LCIIs a year later). Being the antisocial computer geek, I got to have this thing basically all to myself. The best part, there was also a Corvus hard drive with it! Excepth, it looked a lot different than this picture. The one I remember had 3 lights in fron (power, activity and something else- error maybe?), was approxiamately the same color as the II+, and I believe was a little wider. It had outputs on the back  to hook up a VCR to store images of the drive for backup purposes!</p>
	<p>Personally, the first computer I had with a hard drive is a still-running 8088 that had 1, then later 2, 20MB Seagate ST-225s. I remember being almost ashamed when I managed to fill one up.
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 		<title>Comment on [ Retro Scan of the Week ] Corvus Apple II Hard Drive by: Benj Edwards</title>
		<link>http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/610#comment-17355</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Thanks for letting me know, svofski.  I'll look into it.</description>
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