Comments on: [ Retro Scan of the Week ] The Savage Empire http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/627 The Retrogaming and Retrocomputing Blogazine Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:54:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.2 Comment on [ Retro Scan of the Week ] The Savage Empire by: Calibrator http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/627#comment-17892 Sat, 30 Jan 2010 09:09:06 +0000 http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/627#comment-17892 Ah the tiimes... Played both Martian Dreams, which I bought because of a very good review and this (lent by a friend - we swapped games to halve costs). While I generally loved both games - in fact I liked both a bit better than U6 - Savage Empire was a bit weaker than Martian Dreams (which I'd recommend to any history fan/buff) in several respects. If you like the lush VGA jungle graphics better then SE is the ticket, though. However, what killed SE for me at the time was a showstopping bug I encountered pretty late in the game, caused by some seemingly innocuous action earlier. It wasn't curable so it meant game over for me. To this day I wonder if I should have taken the time to replay the first three quarters of the game again but every time I come to the conclusion that I want to spend my limited time with other stuff. If one wants to play SE now he shouldn't be stopped, though, as the bug is documented and can be avoided. Some bonus trivia: The GAME.EXE of noth MD and SE contains the string "Winona Ryder is a really hot babe"... ;-) Ah the tiimes…

Played both Martian Dreams, which I bought because of a very good review and this (lent by a friend - we swapped games to halve costs). While I generally loved both games - in fact I liked both a bit better than U6 - Savage Empire was a bit weaker than Martian Dreams (which I'd recommend to any history fan/buff) in several respects.
If you like the lush VGA jungle graphics better then SE is the ticket, though.

However, what killed SE for me at the time was a showstopping bug I encountered pretty late in the game, caused by some seemingly innocuous action earlier. It wasn't curable so it meant game over for me.
To this day I wonder if I should have taken the time to replay the first three quarters of the game again but every time I come to the conclusion that I want to spend my limited time with other stuff.

If one wants to play SE now he shouldn't be stopped, though, as the bug is documented and can be avoided.

Some bonus trivia:
The GAME.EXE of noth MD and SE contains the string "Winona Ryder is a really hot babe"… ;-)

]]> Comment on [ Retro Scan of the Week ] The Savage Empire by: Donn http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/627#comment-17875 Fri, 22 Jan 2010 23:50:37 +0000 http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/627#comment-17875 Along with Ultimas V, VI and IX, I love Savage Empire. (Yes you read that right, I love Ultima IX, too.) SE is just the right thing for a great Allan Quatermain/King Kong/Zulu-esque jungle adventure. I have to admit, I've never actually finished it, but it's still great fun. Yes, Dosbox is your friend. Just now playing Ultima VII for the first time. Along with Ultimas V, VI and IX, I love Savage Empire. (Yes you read that right, I love Ultima IX, too.) SE is just the right thing for a great Allan Quatermain/King Kong/Zulu-esque jungle adventure. I have to admit, I've never actually finished it, but it's still great fun.

Yes, Dosbox is your friend. Just now playing Ultima VII for the first time.

]]> Comment on [ Retro Scan of the Week ] The Savage Empire by: Benj Edwards http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/627#comment-17874 Thu, 21 Jan 2010 20:46:31 +0000 http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/627#comment-17874 The cover art reminds me of Frank Frazetta's fantasy work: <a href="http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&safe=off&um=1&ei=swxZS-DnC8OXtgeOk-CoBA&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=frank+frazetta&spell=1&start=0" target="_blank">Frank Frazetta </a> He commonly illustrated "savage" type scenes like Conan, etc., so I get the feel that was the sort of vibe Origin was going after with the cover art for The Savage Empire. The cover art reminds me of Frank Frazetta's fantasy work:

Frank Frazetta

He commonly illustrated "savage" type scenes like Conan, etc., so I get the feel that was the sort of vibe Origin was going after with the cover art for The Savage Empire.

]]> Comment on [ Retro Scan of the Week ] The Savage Empire by: SQLGuru http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/627#comment-17872 Thu, 21 Jan 2010 04:13:47 +0000 http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/627#comment-17872 @DPenn that was the same reason that I bought Bad Blood. Plus, she shot LASERS from her EYES. @DPenn that was the same reason that I bought Bad Blood. Plus, she shot LASERS from her EYES.

]]> Comment on [ Retro Scan of the Week ] The Savage Empire by: Thomas http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/627#comment-17871 Thu, 21 Jan 2010 02:07:49 +0000 http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/627#comment-17871 I didn't even notice the woman until I read the comments. I was to busy looking at the screenshots thinking "Hmm, I've got to try this one." I didn't even notice the woman until I read the comments. I was to busy looking at the screenshots thinking "Hmm, I've got to try this one."

]]> Comment on [ Retro Scan of the Week ] The Savage Empire by: DPenn http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/627#comment-17870 Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:03:22 +0000 http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/627#comment-17870 @Xyzzy: My experience viewing the cover was to sort of half-parse the words "Worlds of Ultima," see the woman with the boobs, notice Origin was the publisher and then say, "Really?" to myself. @Xyzzy: My experience viewing the cover was to sort of half-parse the words "Worlds of Ultima," see the woman with the boobs, notice Origin was the publisher and then say, "Really?" to myself.

]]> Comment on [ Retro Scan of the Week ] The Savage Empire by: Kristopher Browne http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/627#comment-17869 Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:29:36 +0000 http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/627#comment-17869 As with any post about retro DOS games, it should be mentioned that Dosbox runs Ultima 1-8, as well as both Worlds and Underworlds, beautifully. As a sidebar, if there are any Mac gamers who haven't tried Boxer for DOS games, you are missing out. It creates self-contained bundles of each game, it's support files, configuration, etc. Elegant, thoughtful, and easy to use. http://www.dosbox.com/ http://boxer.washboardabs.net/ As with any post about retro DOS games, it should be mentioned that Dosbox runs Ultima 1-8, as well as both Worlds and Underworlds, beautifully.

As a sidebar, if there are any Mac gamers who haven't tried Boxer for DOS games, you are missing out. It creates self-contained bundles of each game, it's support files, configuration, etc. Elegant, thoughtful, and easy to use.

http://www.dosbox.com/
http://boxer.washboardabs.net/

]]> Comment on [ Retro Scan of the Week ] The Savage Empire by: Xyzzy http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/627#comment-17868 Tue, 19 Jan 2010 00:25:05 +0000 http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/627#comment-17868 I was/am a huge Ultima fan, but never got around to playing the two Worlds Of Ultima titles. By the time I had copies, they already wouldn't play on my computer's OS. It seems strange for Origin's Ultima art team to have depicted women the way they did on Savage Empire's cover, anyway. They seemed to almost always have women in illustrations wear an amount of clothing parallel to the guys, which I'd really appreciated as a female Ultima fan. I was/am a huge Ultima fan, but never got around to playing the two Worlds Of Ultima titles. By the time I had copies, they already wouldn't play on my computer's OS.

It seems strange for Origin's Ultima art team to have depicted women the way they did on Savage Empire's cover, anyway. They seemed to almost always have women in illustrations wear an amount of clothing parallel to the guys, which I'd really appreciated as a female Ultima fan.

]]> Comment on [ Retro Scan of the Week ] The Savage Empire by: Rodolfo http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/627#comment-17867 Mon, 18 Jan 2010 21:57:21 +0000 http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/627#comment-17867 Pretty solid game, funny moments like some 3 stooges npcs and 2 different love interests. Pretty solid game, funny moments like some 3 stooges npcs and 2 different love interests.

]]> Comment on [ Retro Scan of the Week ] The Savage Empire by: Dave Ross http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/627#comment-17865 Mon, 18 Jan 2010 20:08:12 +0000 http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/627#comment-17865 I'm almost ashamed to admit I own both Worlds of Ultima games in mint condition, but I too have never played The Savage Empire. Maybe I should give it a try. Of course, Martian Dreams is more my cup of tea. I'm almost ashamed to admit I own both Worlds of Ultima games in mint condition, but I too have never played The Savage Empire. Maybe I should give it a try.

Of course, Martian Dreams is more my cup of tea.

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